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Post by Tummygoat on Jun 7, 2002 7:23:41 GMT -5
I will be presenting a few projects to give over the summer that lets YOU be the coach and a chance to express your opinions as well. But first up instead of deciding the starters I want to get a consensus of what the majority says and that will be the starters I will use for the summer. Choose wisely.
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Post by blukat on Jun 7, 2002 9:28:31 GMT -5
I'll get it started, then.
You really want to make it tough, don't you? ;D ;D
As of now my starters would be;
Cliff Hawkins PG
Bogans 2G
Barbour WF
Hayes PF
Estill C
I don't think there is any question that Cliff will start early on. Whether he stays as a starter could be determined by how well Stockton does and if that pushes Cliff to be better.
Keith is back at his old position simply because I think that's where he should be. This is where he would probably play in the NBA. The last two seasons at the 3 were more or less out of necessity.
Barbour I feel could very well start. A lot of this depends on how he does coming in against the other players at this spot.
I also feel that Chuck has a very good chance at starting. I think his play the last part of the past season will help in that.
I chose Quis to start mainly because I just don't think Jason will start immediately. He will need to be evaluated in practices and early games to see how his knee will perform. Jules, in my opinion, seems to do a little better coming off the bench.
That is what coach blukat has.
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Post by Administrator on Jun 7, 2002 10:39:53 GMT -5
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PG - Hawkins
SG - Barbour
SF - Bogans
PF - Hayes
C - Camara
PG - Hawkins is the only logical choice here. I look for GREAT things from Cliff this year. He made great strides from frosh to soph and I expect the trend to continue. After it's all said and done, he will be remembered as on of the GREAT UK point guards.
SG - I'll give the edge to Barbour here (could be Fitch though since he knows the system already) Antwain has the athletic ability to play many positions but I think he will serve us best at the 2 spot.
SF - Bogans should stay in this position IMO. He's quicker than most SF's which helps in many ways. He can beat them on the drive and bust it to the basket or just out-quick them to create his shot. Either way....I look for a monster year from Keith.
PF - Hayes and nobody but Hayes. He has the attitude. He has the ethics. He has the total package. A bull under the basket with good hands. Also has a nice outside shot. This young man will only improve and he will become an All-Time Fan Favorite.
C - I'll give the nod to Jules. Parker may work his way into the starting lineup later in the season but for now, we'll start him out slowly. Camara has the ability to alter many shots in the lane, is very quick for his size, and has a sweet midrange shot. Many of these traits are also seen in Marquis Estill. The center spot could go to either Jules or Marquis.
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Post by KY Kid on Jun 7, 2002 13:21:39 GMT -5
Looks like fun Tummygoat!
PG- Hawkins: Knows the system, has shown steady improvement in all areas including decision making. Has a boatload of potential.
SG- Fitch: Already knows the system, brings so much to the table with hustle, defense, and he's a consistent shooter. Haven't seen Barbour play, so I can't make a fair judgement. So I look for Fitch to start early at least.
SF- Bogans: Duh!!! He plays better at the three imo.
PF Hayes: Guy brings a tremendous rebounding and hustle effort. Good team player and leader. IMO he also had a pretty darn good offensive game at the end of last year.
C- Parker: Big, strong, and can score. Much more aggresive and intimidating than the other two centers. He brings that enforcer mentality we lacked last year.
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Post by Roadwildcat on Jun 7, 2002 13:35:55 GMT -5
Looks like fun Tummygoat! PG- Hawkins: Knows the system, has shown steady improvement in all areas including decision making. Has a boatload of potential. SG- Fitch: Already knows the system, brings so much to the table with hustle, defense, and he's a consistent shooter. Haven't seen Barbour play, so I can't make a fair judgement. So I look for Fitch to start early at least. SF- Bogans: Duh!!! He plays better at the three imo. PF Hayes: Guy brings a tremendous rebounding and hustle effort. Good team player and leader. IMO he also had a pretty darn good offensive game at the end of last year. C- Parker: Big, strong, and can score. Much more aggresive and intimidating than the other two centers. He brings that enforcer mentality we lacked last year. :coach: KY Kid is my coach.....in other words.....DITTO ;D |
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Post by KY Kid on Jun 7, 2002 13:42:04 GMT -5
Now give me 25 windsprints. :coach:
;D ;D ;D
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Post by Roadwildcat on Jun 7, 2002 14:24:54 GMT -5
Now give me 25 windsprints. :coach: ;D ;D ;D KY Kid was my coach :shootme: what was I thinking? :help: |
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Post by ForeverBigBlue on Jun 7, 2002 20:06:51 GMT -5
Looks like fun Tummygoat! PG- Hawkins: Knows the system, has shown steady improvement in all areas including decision making. Has a boatload of potential. SG- Fitch: Already knows the system, brings so much to the table with hustle, defense, and he's a consistent shooter. Haven't seen Barbour play, so I can't make a fair judgement. So I look for Fitch to start early at least. SF- Bogans: Duh!!! He plays better at the three imo. PF Hayes: Guy brings a tremendous rebounding and hustle effort. Good team player and leader. IMO he also had a pretty darn good offensive game at the end of last year. C- Parker: Big, strong, and can score. Much more aggresive and intimidating than the other two centers. He brings that enforcer mentality we lacked last year. Ok, KYKid is not going to be my coach (no windsprints for this old chick!), but I have to agree 100% with his assessment. Can't argue with any of his reasoning or choices. Thanks for doing the work for me!  |
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Blueblood_Jim
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I really thought the coin toss ended badly
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Post by Blueblood_Jim on Jun 8, 2002 21:28:06 GMT -5
First off, realize that Bogans has played the 3 basically his entire Kentucky career except for a few games this past year and the year before. I am pretty sure about 4 starters, the fifth is a very tough call, but remember, Parker has a clause in his contract that says he gets to start every game
Point: Hawkins with Stockton and Fitch backing up
Two: Barbour with Fitch backing up
Three: Bogans with Buike backing up and Daniels seeing a little time possibly there as well
Four: Hayes with Camara and Daniels also seeing time there
Five: Parker or Camara will start with Estill also seeing time at the position
Everybody else will be garbage only, baby. Carrier will realize that he will never play and either transfer or walk-on. Ala Todd Tackett, we will need that scholarship for the future unless he magically improves his athleticism
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Post by kj on Jun 8, 2002 23:28:30 GMT -5
Hawkins at the point if he is eligible,with Fitch first back up
Barbour at the 2 with Fitch as backup and Bogans providing a few minutes here
Bogans at the 3 with KA and Daniels as back up
Hayes at the 4 with Camara as back up
Estill at the 5 with Parker as backup until late in the season
Basically a team that unless Tubby gets after people all over the floor that will have trouble scoring and rebounding in a half court grind it out game that Tubby favors. Another poor outside shooting team that will have problems against zone defenses.
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Post by Tummygoat on Jun 9, 2002 11:53:02 GMT -5
Good points everyone. I will keep this open a few more days so we can get input from everyone and a clear concensus.
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Post by KY Kid on Jun 9, 2002 13:23:14 GMT -5
Chuck Hayes is an excellent rebounder. Gearld Fitch is the best rebounding gaurd I've seen in a long time. Estill and Parker are decent rebounders. And Camara is ok on the boards. Bogans is a pretty good rebounder in his own right, and Barbour is supposedly a complete player who can do it all including rebounding. Kaleena is 6'5 and supposedly has a 40 inch vertical, so he should be able to grab some boards.
I agree this team will probably have trouble shooting the ball from deep, unless something changes, but I don't see them having trouble rebounding.
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Post by kj on Jun 9, 2002 13:41:00 GMT -5
Parker at 6-7, Hayes at 6-6, Bogans and Barbour at 6-4, yes, imo we will have trouble rebounding. That will be a very short line up. We had trouble last year after being one of the national leaders early. You think Parker is going to come off two knee surgeries and a year of no balling and be great out of the chute? What has JUles done other than a highlight dunk for sportscenter every now and then? Jim you show me some results that are worth writing home about the last three years and I might be a little more positive. I've heard Final Four material the last three years, ain't even been close. I also know who has been more right the last three years about the Cats, do you admit that?
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Blueblood_Jim
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I really thought the coin toss ended badly
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Post by Blueblood_Jim on Jun 9, 2002 15:30:38 GMT -5
How can you say, "who has been more right about the last three years", when we have only been reding each others posts for 14 months? And why do you list Parker as 6'7", Hayes as 6'6" and Bogans and Barbour as 6'4"? Have you measured these guys? Are you simply assuming since all are listed as being taller than that that their heights have been inflated? Parker might not even start and Camara at 6'11" and Estill at 6'9" are not small. Bogans is not small for a three, certainly Barbour is not small for a two. Parker and Hayes also have a lot of beef, baby. They get good position on the block and Hayes has proven himself as a rebounder on the collegiate level and certainly he was an amazing rebounder in high-school. We will have to see about the three point shooting 8) |
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