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Post by kentubbybasketball on May 31, 2005 8:05:15 GMT -5
i wonder if those Self haters were ever called racist or cry babies or........ just a thought. 7yrs and counting for one hit wonder. Don't see what race has anything to do with it. I say Tubby Smith is the best coach in the nation bar none, because he is, not because he's black. And, consequently, I say what i say about Self, because it's my perception of him. BTW, one time when Self won the Big Ten Tourney at Illinois, I saw him holding what looked to be a biracial baby. I don't know if he's the father or not, so I just fail to see where race has anything to do with any of this.
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Post by kentubbybasketball on May 31, 2005 8:14:56 GMT -5
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Post by kentubbybasketball on May 31, 2005 8:21:37 GMT -5
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Post by kj on May 31, 2005 8:28:27 GMT -5
Here's a little detailed info on the attendance at Rupp since 1990, ktb. We lead since Tubby has been here but we have lost on the average. Think about your own stats for a minute. If we're leading, and our attendance is going down, wouldn't that tell you that everybody's attendance is going down. kj, we're still the barometer and your stats obviusly show that. Have it your way with Self. I'm just showing you that he lost in the first round of the tourney. His results at Illinois should have garnered a final four also (having Brian Cook, Deron Williams, Luther Head, Frank Williams, Corey Bradford). He still can't pull a final four out of that. What about what Roy Williams left him with. Roy left him with players that were already coached to back to back final fours, and he loses in the first round. If that's the standard that you hold UK to, that's fine. But, don't come complaining about a Elite 8. I still fail to see the correlation. Self's not gonna get much better players than what he's had at Illinois and Kansas. If we want to settle for a guy that can't get out of the first round, Billy Donovan or Rick Pitino (last year when Xavier showed him the door) will always be available. All I'm saying is that the buzz about the UK program is not quite what it used to be. A couple of thousand less fans on the average testifies to this fact. Either that or the economy in Lexington is way down (I know better than that) or there is a whole lot of alternative entertainment now available in the winter months. Maybe the national attendance stats are worse than UK's, but if UK was doing all that, we would be back in the high 23's instead of the 22's. BTW if Tubby sticks around long enough imo you'll see him go in the first round, particularly if we are a 5 or 6 in the seedings. Recruiting can make that scenario possible.
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Post by CatDaddy on May 31, 2005 10:45:59 GMT -5
i wonder if those Self haters were ever called racist or cry babies or........ just a thought. 7yrs and counting for one hit wonder. Don't see what race has anything to do with it. I say Tubby Smith is the best coach in the nation bar none, because he is, not because he's black. And, consequently, I say what i say about Self, because it's my perception of him. BTW, one time when Self won the Big Ten Tourney at Illinois, I saw him holding what looked to be a biracial baby. I don't know if he's the father or not, so I just fail to see where race has anything to do with any of this. His name says it all, expect race and anything anti-UK at all times from the Xfan.... Keep ;D
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Post by BlueCat on May 31, 2005 11:13:05 GMT -5
I think this one has pretty much run it's course. ;D
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