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Post by TheSpectre on Oct 29, 2008 10:26:07 GMT -5
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Post by UK_CATS_3 on Oct 29, 2008 16:38:09 GMT -5
Deleted comment since it is against our posting guidelines. See number 4 for clarification.
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Post by Cody KP on Oct 29, 2008 17:21:41 GMT -5
UK_CATS_3 would you mind clarifying your above statement. I hope for the sake of you not sounding really racist, that you misspsoke.
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Post by stagger on Oct 30, 2008 8:38:41 GMT -5
To be fair, there is a percentage of blacks who use that as their trump card....Jessee Jackson comes to mind.
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Post by TheSpectre on Oct 30, 2008 9:20:49 GMT -5
The race issue is another very interesting one, but this is really about the liberal press (yes, 99% of the press is liberal) protecting their man instead of doing their job. Their job? Providing information to the public, not suppressing it! If this were McCain, it would have been all over the place. They would have loudly and proudly broadcasted this tape over EVERY network. But, instead of a very important and pertinent story about some MORE of Obama's shady connections and real beliefs/motives....we'll get another story on Palin's wardrobe. RIDICULOUS!
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Post by Cody KP on Oct 30, 2008 15:41:32 GMT -5
The race issue is another very interesting one, but this is really about the liberal press (yes, 99% of the press is liberal) protecting their man instead of doing their job. Their job? Providing information to the public, not suppressing it! If this were McCain, it would have been all over the place. They would have loudly and proudly broadcasted this tape over EVERY network. But, instead of a very important and pertinent story about some MORE of Obama's shady connections and real beliefs/motives....we'll get another story on Palin's wardrobe. RIDICULOUS! Now, how do you suppose conservative network Fox News would react if they had info like this on John McCain? Do you think they would do what the could to protect him and his image? I believe they would and I believe that more liberal TV networks will do the same with Obama. I wish there was 1 completely unbiased news station / anchor but that is hard to find. I usually watch CNN myself, but I do watch a bit of MSNBC and Fox News just to see all sides of what is going on. |
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Post by CatDaddy on Oct 30, 2008 17:25:12 GMT -5
that just go to show they (meaning black people) only use race to there advantage Some do, to be honest a lot in the public eye do and that's obvious.. BUT not all do.. "Most white man wouldn't want to wake up black tomorrow and yet most black man would love to wake up white" that says a lot to me.. BTW, a black man (Chris Rock) originally said that.. Their race has/is no advantage, not even now, in theses, the worst days of "PCBS" (Political Correctness Bull Sh*t) Anyway, if you mean some, or even a lot, I agree.. If you mean all? I say not nearly.... -D |
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Post by TheSpectre on Oct 31, 2008 8:02:21 GMT -5
The race issue is another very interesting one, but this is really about the liberal press (yes, 99% of the press is liberal) protecting their man instead of doing their job. Their job? Providing information to the public, not suppressing it! If this were McCain, it would have been all over the place. They would have loudly and proudly broadcasted this tape over EVERY network. But, instead of a very important and pertinent story about some MORE of Obama's shady connections and real beliefs/motives....we'll get another story on Palin's wardrobe. RIDICULOUS! Now, how do you suppose conservative network Fox News would react if they had info like this on John McCain? Do you think they would do what the could to protect him and his image? I believe they would and I believe that more liberal TV networks will do the same with Obama. I wish there was 1 completely unbiased news station / anchor but that is hard to find. I usually watch CNN myself, but I do watch a bit of MSNBC and Fox News just to see all sides of what is going on. Fox is the ONLY network that EVER gives the conservative side of the story. The left has CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, etc. |
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Post by Cody KP on Oct 31, 2008 15:01:52 GMT -5
Fox is the ONLY network that EVER gives the conservative side of the story. The left has CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, etc. I had this conversation with a co worker the other day. Are you blaming the liberals for having too many tv stations? I can understand that, but think about why they are doing it.... Because that is what the viewers want to watch. If reporting Conservative news brought in more viewers then more stations would be more conservative. Media is a market and they're going to report what will get them viewers. |
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Post by TheSpectre on Oct 31, 2008 15:48:30 GMT -5
Fox is the ONLY network that EVER gives the conservative side of the story. The left has CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, etc. I had this conversation with a co worker the other day. Are you blaming the liberals for having too many tv stations? I can understand that, but think about why they are doing it.... Because that is what the viewers want to watch. If reporting Conservative news brought in more viewers then more stations would be more conservative. Media is a market and they're going to report what will get them viewers. You couldn't be more wrong. The viewers, in droves, have migrated to Fox over the last decade and they are the #1 rated news network because they actually give both sides. There are a number of reports citing how the major networks have lost viewers because of the obvious slant in their "reporting". The other networks have a liberal bias because they are owned by liberals, hire liberals, and, therefore, have a majority of liberal reporters. |
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Post by UK_CATS_3 on Oct 31, 2008 19:57:14 GMT -5
Cody p im not saying that all black people use race to there advantage. i do have black friends. But to shed a little light i work for the state of IL and they HAVE to hire so many blacks . THE test is done on points system my buddy scored in the 80s out of 100 points but a black female got hired over him with a 38. If they want to be treated equally than there should not be any rules broke for them. And to say they stick with there own look at the % of blacks in florida that are voting for obama its 98% to 2 for mcain you dont see that kind of % of whites voting for mcain so yes i would say they are voting for him because he is black
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Post by uk4life on Nov 1, 2008 8:06:44 GMT -5
Spectre you must not watch O'reilly lately because if you did, you would notice him bitching about the ratings. Namely that Keith Olbermann has been dominating him in the ratings the last couple weeks and now Bill O is trying to say there's a left-wing conspiracy in the Nielsen ratings. Maybe its BS like that that makes people not want to watch Fox. Fox News is not the #1 news network, if you really believe that then I bet you're a huge Sean Hannity fan too.
And Rasheed Kaleedy (sp), who this whole story is about, recieved $500,000 from McCain and a group he was part of in the early 90's. So now John McCain is giving large amounts of money to radicals that don't have our country's best interests at heart? This is another non-story, seriously I could care less about either candidate's association with this guy. Why won't conservatives talk about the economy, or healthcare or real issues? Ever wonder why McCain is gonna lose this election?
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Post by uk4life on Nov 1, 2008 8:31:44 GMT -5
Cody p im not saying that all black people use race to there advantage. i do have black friends. But to shed a little light i work for the state of IL and they HAVE to hire so many blacks . THE test is done on points system my buddy scored in the 80s out of 100 points but a black female got hired over him with a 38. If they want to be treated equally than there should not be any rules broke for them. And to say they stick with there own look at the % of blacks in florida that are voting for obama its 98% to 2 for mcain you dont see that kind of % of whites voting for mcain so yes i would say they are voting for him because he is black What % of blacks voted for Bill Clinton? Or EVERY OTHER DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE? |
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Post by Cody KP on Nov 1, 2008 12:13:08 GMT -5
From what I've found, FOX News does indeed receive the most ratings. My main point I was going at is that there is demand for more conservative news, then why not start more?
uk4life, I looked for data on the African American vote in past elections but I couldn't come up with anything. African American's and minorities do tend to vote more strongly toward the Left. With Obama being a minority he creates a common link with other minorities and hence their votes will switch toward them. It may not be a deal breaker, but people are more likely to vote for people that they have things in common with. Veterans like to vote for veterans, blacks for blacks, white for whites, Jews for Jews, Kentuckians for Kentuckians, etc
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Post by UK_CATS_3 on Nov 1, 2008 23:24:58 GMT -5
whatever obama is the wrong choose for president and mcain is to much like busch i a die hard rep just might have voted for clinton bill was not a bad pres but all politicians are crooked period
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