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Post by TedRay80 on Dec 10, 2002 11:57:08 GMT -5
still_busted Leading Scorer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Man, you GOTTA put the ball in the damn hole and KEEP the OTHER team from shooting lights out if you want to win and I am sorry, but I do NOT see the EYE of the TIGER in these kids and that falls directly on the coaching staff. {NOTICE} I did NOT place ALL of the blame on Tubby, but, he IS responsible for the parasites who are SUPPOSED to assist him, so indirectly, HE IS responsible" Logged ----------------------------- Now that the Cats have shot over 60% in back-to-back games (done only one other time in the 3-point era), I guess some things change. Since NOT shooting well falls directly on the coaching staff, I sure would hope that means shooting well does, too. In your own words, Tubby is responsible for this excellent shooting. Otherwise, it would seem that you're taking all the negatives and throwing them on him, but not attributing the equivalent positives.
So, busted, I suppose your appropriate response now would be, "Congratulations Tubby. You and your parasites must be responsible for our team's lights out shooting! Great job, Coach!!"
I'll eagerly await hearing it!
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Post by Tummygoat on Dec 10, 2002 15:20:44 GMT -5
I agree with that Teddy, but let's see if we can do it again. I think its awesome that that hasnt been done in the 3-point era. The past two games these kids look like offensive machines and we're averaging more points than the last 3 or 4 years and have gone against very good competition. I know we shot miserably against UVA, but for starters we havent done that anymore in 3 games and have just exploded offensively since then so I'm just going to delete that from memory and call that a freak accident rather than shooting over 50% since we've done that three incredible times. Hope we do well tonight.
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Post by Administrator on Dec 10, 2002 21:00:08 GMT -5
We're about ready to see if we can make it three in a row.
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Post by TedRay80 on Dec 10, 2002 23:18:58 GMT -5
Close, but no cigar. Not bad from 3-pt. range, though!
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Post by Administrator on Dec 11, 2002 6:57:50 GMT -5
I thought we looked pretty good. Maybe not our "A" game but certainly a high "B"
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Post by ForeverBigBlue on Dec 11, 2002 9:04:35 GMT -5
I remember a stat they posted toward the end of the game (before we put in the reserve-reserves, who launched up a bunch of not-good shots) that showed us shooting 60% from 3-point range and 58% FG. Not bad numbers at all! I am assigning the UVA game "bad dream" status as well. To have a "flat" game as we did last night and still be shooting the ball with very decent %'s and, for the most part, playing good offensive sets (a few exceptions to that), I am feeling better every day.
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Post by kj on Dec 15, 2002 12:04:17 GMT -5
Attribute good shooting to Tubby? He doesn't put the ball in the hole, he does provide the impetus for his team to work the ball inside out and to take the long jumper in the flow of the offense. Yesterday, Tubby didn't get this done and we took another loss.
Nothing will change, we are a borderline top 15-20 team that can beat anybody if we play to our potential but we can be beaten by anybody if we take that open three without looking at the other options in our offense first.
Congrats to MSU, they played tough and hard, controlling the tempo in the 2nd half won the game for them. Tubby and his staff were beaten yesterday, we had better talent than MSU and still were beaten on our home floor.
Wake up Tub and Hobbs or we could easily have a 3 game losing streak.
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Post by Tummygoat on Dec 15, 2002 12:24:48 GMT -5
If we were beaten by more than a desperation 3 point shot, I might concede to think we are bordeling like kj says, but I think we know UK is much more than that. Three of our best players had their worst day of the season and yet, we still could have won this game if not for a last minute 3 pointer. Thats very encouraging...though the loss is not. This was not a bad game like UVA or a game where we got outcoached (that idea is ludacrous). We need to hit free throws and that's something that can't be coached. Players just need to find some time to spend on the stripe. A Coach can help with technique, but ultimately it is the player that is responsible for missing. We've done a better than avg job at free throws this season, but last night exposed that we need to do more in that area. I wasnt really impressed withour play, but I was disappointed, this was a new thing for us to face (defense) and though we lost, we'll only get better. Remember its March that ultimately counts and right now we still have the talent, depth, and will to go really far. Dont let one game get you down when we've had 4 BEYOND EXCELLENT games in a row. Bound to be some par games every now and then. Lets just regroup and go out and kick IU's tail!!
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Post by still_busted on Jan 6, 2003 17:28:35 GMT -5
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Post by TedRay80 on Jan 7, 2003 14:19:36 GMT -5
Well teddy since you always seem to find SOMETHING to bellyache about my posts, let me respond to that. WHEN ANYONE deserves credit, I will give it. Are YOU willing to accept tubbys FAULTS? seems as if you believe that Tubby can do NO wrong. BLAME the PLAYERS if they LOSE and give Tubby ALL the CREDIT when they win. Is that the way YOU like it? HOW MANY games has tubbys team shot 60%? HOW MANY times have they shot in the 30% range/ Come on, give us the percentages. Really? When anyone deserves credit, you give it?? The point I've been trying to make (and the reason I "always seem to find SOMETHING to bellyache" about your posts) is that you do exactly the opposite of what you accuse me of doing. Specifically, blame Tubby if they lose and give the players all the credit when they win. If you go back through my posts, you'll have a hard time finding me outright saying that Tubby is a wonderful coach because of something the team did well (unless it's using the same reasoning a negative poster has used to point out his/her illogic). What you will find is me holding people accountable to any attributions they give to the coaching staff (shooting in this example). My point: if you're going to use it as something to blame on the staff, you better be willing to give the staff credit when it goes right. You have consistently failed to do this. My posts are not an attempt to say that Tubby can do nothing wrong, just to show how asinine some people's arguments are. I believe saying something falls "directly on the coaching staff" and then remaining silent for a month when called to account for some "eye of the tiger" shooting would qualify.
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