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Post by kyblueintenn on May 11, 2004 23:54:25 GMT -5
Your not gonna like that then KyKidd !  , but maybe they will let you come out and do a little of this before long !  -- Just playing bro. Thank You for the service to our country you have signed up for as well. May God watch over and keep you everywhere you may go ! |
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Post by ForeverBigBlue on May 12, 2004 13:03:13 GMT -5
While I in no way condone the actions of the Iraqis against Americans, I also do not condone US troops mistreating any prisoners. While its certainly a temptation to "make them pay", I think a country founded under God should hold themselves to a higher standard. Geneva Convention anyone?
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Post by truth on May 12, 2004 14:35:28 GMT -5
TexasBlue blewit with:
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Where was the media and bleeding liberal hearts when this happened?
Why were they not outraged over this event?
What does this mean? Why do you think they weren't?
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Post by Administrator on May 14, 2004 10:13:58 GMT -5
My Take:
It's easy for us to sit here in our country, in our safe homes and speculate how we would/should act but until we walk a mile in the shoes of a soldier behind enemy lines, we don't really know how we'd act.
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Post by ForeverBigBlue on May 14, 2004 13:15:10 GMT -5
True enough Spam. However, the Geneva Convention was pretty clear about what actions ARE inappropriate. Yes, they are prisoners and yes, they are the enemy. But are they not also human beings, created by God? What purpose is truly served by stripping down prisoners & posing them in sexually suggestive poses?
If a prisoner or prisoners were a threat to any of the soldiers, then you deal with it accordingly. But some of the things done were just too bizarre IMO. Again, we as the US and under intense scrutiny by the rest of the world should show a lot more character and class. It can be done without sacrificing safety.
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Post by TexasBlue on May 14, 2004 14:24:14 GMT -5
And President Bush steps off the helicopter with two pigs under each arm, the Marine snaps to attention and says, "nice pigs Mr. President".
President Bush replies, these are not just ordinary pigs son, these are prize winning Texas hogs, the best in the world. I got them for Vice-Pesident Chaney and Def. Sec. Rumsfeld.
The Marines quickly responses, NICE TRADE SIR.
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Post by Administrator on May 14, 2004 20:28:48 GMT -5
True enough Spam. However, the Geneva Convention was pretty clear about what actions ARE inappropriate. Yes, they are prisoners and yes, they are the enemy. But are they not also human beings, created by God? What purpose is truly served by stripping down prisoners & posing them in sexually suggestive poses? If a prisoner or prisoners were a threat to any of the soldiers, then you deal with it accordingly. But some of the things done were just too bizarre IMO. Again, we as the US and under intense scrutiny by the rest of the world should show a lot more character and class. It can be done without sacrificing safety. Point taken and I understand what you're saying. As I mentioned in another thread, I do not condone the actions taken by our soldiers but I also do not think it's something to make such a big deal over. Deal with these people accordingly and let's get on with it. 'X' amount of military personel violated the Geneva Convention. Take issue with those individuals and send the word to others that we do not condone such actions and dicipline will be swift. What type of dicipline? I don't know. However, one must try to understand what our armed forces are going though. Maybe those captured were the ones that hung Americans from a bridge. We don't know. I'm sure worse things have happened that none of us are aware of. Maybe they're imprisoned for setting IED's. We just don't know. This is all JMOT and I'm sure many do not agree with that. It's all good though. After watching that video of the beheading, I'll never be the same again. It's like we're living in barbaric times again. Just like our ancestors. I'm sure some nasty deeds happened when the British took control of much of the east coast. I'm sorta a history buff so I see some of the similarities. |
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Post by ForeverBigBlue on May 15, 2004 11:38:20 GMT -5
I do understand what you're saying Spam. And my thoughts are also JMVHO (well, maybe not all that humble!  ) I just get frustrated by this seemingly never-ending cycle of pointless violence. Side A blows up a bridge. Side B beats prisoners from Sida A as retaliation. Side A beheads a civilian from Side B in retaliation of how prisoners are treated. If the only ones involved in all of this were simply those that were personally doing the attacking and resisting the US's efforts for rebuilding a government, then I'd say "Hey baby, its war." But BOTH sides have done more than enough damage to innocent civilian bystanders. Yeah, yeah...I'm looking for some kind of perfect world that does not exist. I understand that fully. I just want a far less ugly world for my child to see when she is older. |
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Post by Administrator on May 15, 2004 12:08:08 GMT -5
Via accident or intention? Accidental COW are sadly unavoidable but to target the innocent is something I don't see the US doing. I could be wrong.
I agree with you 100% on this one. That's why I think we should finish it NOW. Do what we gotta do and get out of there and let the Iraqi people govern themselves.
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Post by BlueCat on May 15, 2004 12:30:38 GMT -5
I agree with you 100% on this one. That's why I think we should finish it NOW. Do what we gotta do and get out of there and let the Iraqi people govern themselves. |
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