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Post by TexasBlue on Feb 20, 2004 13:17:35 GMT -5
Go, FBB!! I bet you have your hands full - sort of like letting him think he is in charge but also making sure that he doesn't hurt himself!! OK, Golfnsr, I will share the wings.
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Post by 4TheLuvOfBilly44 on Feb 20, 2004 13:24:19 GMT -5
Sandy, I am sorry, but Honestly I don't appreciate you using "common sense" as your theme. Cause if we look at this all with common sense then we all realize that the NCAA rule when applied to common sense is compeletely Bull. You said that only the coaches hired by the team are able to have contact with the player. Where do you draw the line? Seriously! Again I ask about people from the players high school...they may have never talked to him before in their life, but seen him every day. If one of them happens to be a UK fan and decides to ask a question, then are we in violation? Someone who goes to this kids high school games every year, but also happens to be a UK fan....maybe even talked to him a little before he ever thought of UK....is he in violation? Sorry, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but that is a bunch of crap. Where do you draw the line? Is he allowed to even talk to the person at the checkout line at the grocery? They might be a UK fan. Maybe he should become a monk and take a vow of silence until he finally comes onto campus. Chris, you're not alone. Sandi, I do not appreciate you saying that some of the things said on this thread are border ridiculous. Because I think that many things you've said are just the same. I don't mean to disrespect you but you are taking this a little far. The NCAA will NOT investigate UK b/c of the examples mentioned. That's absolutely nonsense! I just cannot believe that this is even an issue.
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Post by Administrator on Feb 20, 2004 13:27:24 GMT -5
In light of this subject, let's not forget the guidelines my friends. No foul language please and only attack the subject, not the author. Thank you for your cooperation.
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Post by ChrisR155 on Feb 20, 2004 13:30:13 GMT -5
In light of this subject, let's not forget the guidelines my friends. No foul language please and only attack the subject, not the author. Thank you for your cooperation. Sorry for the word I used...as for my attack, it was not an attack on the author. I maybe questioned her, because I don't feel that her choice of wording was fair to any of us. I don't appreciate to be told to use common sense in something that I feel I am justified in regards to common sense. I think that is more of an indirect attack on someone, and somewhat disrespectful. As to the questions I posed....I do want to know the answer....WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE?
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Post by Administrator on Feb 20, 2004 13:44:05 GMT -5
No problem Chris...even though I wasn't going to single you out. Frankly, I'm suprised that it's only happened a time or two on this thread......thank God. lol ;D I think the basic premise here, at least on this thread, is to educate the public. We're currently working on making a page on compliance to assist the university. To get the 'word' out. I'm doing some research now using the NCAA site, UK Athletic site and the Blueprint Newsletters.....at least one newsletter anyway. This is the NCAA's version of 'shock and awe' but you won't find this one on CNN. ;D
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Post by ChrisR155 on Feb 20, 2004 13:45:36 GMT -5
Can't this regulation be fought, based on the appearance that it is probably unconstitutional?
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Post by Administrator on Feb 20, 2004 14:04:17 GMT -5
I'm sure it can be and probably is being fought since it's so frustrating to the university, coaches and the general public. Take it to the NCAA. Start a petition. Do whatever you think is necessary. This was started by the NCAA and their the ones responsible IMO. The day of the internet is at hand and the NCAA should address those 'grey' areas in which the 'casual' fan is afffected. I lay most of the blame at the 'true' boosters in the past that crossed the line causing the NCAA to adopt such a ridiculous rule. These people handing out cash, cars, 'companionship' etc etc have made life a living hell for the fans as evidenced by this rule. Of course, this is JMO and I guess I'm venting somewhat as well.
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Post by TexasBlue on Feb 20, 2004 14:05:05 GMT -5
Can't this regulation be fought, based on the appearance that it is probably unconstitutional? ChrisR---On your previous post, the second sentence in the first paragraph is outstanding and captures this entire thread. On the above, off the top of my head, I beleive unconstitutional would apply more to some rule or regulation, or law applied to the public as a whole. In contrast, here we have a rule initiated by somewhat of a "private" entity, for the purpose of governing or regulating themselves, that applies to other private entities that are members of an organization. Sorry, forget the above, lets go back to common sense, your second sentence in the first paragraph was great.
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Post by TexasBlue on Feb 20, 2004 14:40:45 GMT -5
Sandy, I am sorry, but Honestly I don't appreciate you using "common sense" as your theme. Cause if we look at this all with common sense then we all realize that the NCAA rule when applied to common sense is compeletely Bull. You said that only the coaches hired by the team are able to have contact with the player. Where do you draw the line? Seriously! Again I ask about people from the players high school...they may have never talked to him before in their life, but seen him every day. If one of them happens to be a UK fan and decides to ask a question, then are we in violation? Someone who goes to this kids high school games every year, but also happens to be a UK fan....maybe even talked to him a little before he ever thought of UK....is he in violation? Sorry, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but that is a bunch of crap. Where do you draw the line? Is he allowed to even talk to the person at the checkout line at the grocery? They might be a UK fan. Maybe he should become a monk and take a vow of silence until he finally comes onto campus. ChrisR-----Second sentence, first paragraph says it all.
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Post by golfnsr on Feb 20, 2004 14:48:44 GMT -5
Man, is this thread ever turning into attack the messenger and not listen to the message.
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Post by TexasBlue on Feb 20, 2004 14:53:58 GMT -5
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Post by TexasBlue on Feb 20, 2004 14:56:55 GMT -5
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Post by Administrator on Feb 20, 2004 15:25:41 GMT -5
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Post by Administrator on Feb 20, 2004 15:49:57 GMT -5
I think we've taken enough of Sandy's time. She's a very busy woman with many responsibilities and I'd like to extend a much deserved 'thank you' for taking the time to register and participate in this discussion. I doubt we'd see that from too many Assistant Athletics Directors esp one from such a visable and large university like Kentucky. I applaud you and the efforts of your staff. We now have the information and we'll soon have a page on this very subject for everyone to read and study if they'd like. It's up to us now. I'd also like to thank the members here. This came out of nowhere (at least for me) and I was shocked to learn of such things. People respond differently to adversity and I think we handled it OK. I really thought some comments would've been worse and we appreciate the restraint shown by everyone esp on such a 'heated' topic. Nice job by all. Any other answers to specific questions can be obtained by following this link: HereThe ComplyCat hotline can be reached by dialing 1-866-275-2287.
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Post by golfnsr on Feb 20, 2004 16:27:11 GMT -5
Good wrapup, Spam!!
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