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Post by thuss006 on Aug 2, 2005 13:07:56 GMT -5
BlueCat What you are neglecting to take into account about Pitinos 2 ten loss seasons is he took over a team that was bottoming out. The same can be said about UK when he took over here. When Tubby took over here he got a team that was pre season favorites to win it all. That is not a fair comparison. Bailey The team that Tubby got was far from pre-season favorites to win it all. I am tired of everybody remembering what is conveniant for them to remember in order to slam Tubby. They were ranked 13th in the pre-season, and they still won it all. 5 posts later. . . BlueCat So you are saying that the Pitino and Tubby inheritated similar circumstances. NOT! Tubby inheritated a pre season Number1 team while Pitino inheritated 2 teams that were bottoming out. Which one should have 10 loss seasons? How come Tubby has 3 ten loss seasons? Bailey Baily we have all told you numerous times that UK wasn't ranked pre-season #1. I can probably point to 5 threads where either me or someone else has told you that. At least read the rebuttles. I stopped even trying to argue with you because you don't even read what i write. You just come back with the same things you said before that I just proved to be false. At least know what you are getting mad about. I will also guarentee that no one on this board who keeps REE_PEE this and REE_PEE thatin' about everything must have wtched a single U of L game last year except the UK game. They played the exact same kind of ball that we did. scores in the 50's and 60's with a slow and deliberate style of play. Cardhater, xukfan and Baily are definately different. Also, Louisville averaged 80 points a game this past year and plays a style that is much different from Tubby's. I watched many of their games last year and saw a much faster pace than we play. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with either style, but I will say that they are very different.
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Post by CardHater on Aug 2, 2005 13:38:50 GMT -5
It was 13th you are correct.
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Post by CardHater on Aug 2, 2005 13:46:32 GMT -5
I am saying that they played a 2-3 zone and a half court oriented style of play as opposed to a full-court style of play. They rarely pressed this year. Any difference in average scoe can be attributed to the quality of teams they played I think.
We also averaged 76 points a game but to hear everyone tell it we only scored 40.
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Post by thuss006 on Aug 2, 2005 13:58:37 GMT -5
Just pointing out that they weren't in the 50's and 60's so often. Also, their 3-point oriented offense got them killed in a couple of games last year. If they were off, it left things very open.
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Post by kentubbybasketball on Aug 2, 2005 15:41:26 GMT -5
Well, when we played them the game was in the 60s... oh wait, they didn't even score that much.
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Post by thuss006 on Aug 2, 2005 17:06:45 GMT -5
Well, we did injure the guy that was killing us. . .
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Post by golfnsr on Aug 2, 2005 17:30:45 GMT -5
Well, we did injure the guy that was killing us. . . I still contend that when Palacios was injured and didn't return for the 2nd half is when we basically got back in the game. I got lynched for saying this in another thread but now I have #4 saying it so I'm OK. Not trying to be negative but we had no answer for him in the 1st half.
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Post by BlueCat on Aug 2, 2005 17:37:38 GMT -5
golf, you are right. We had no answer for him in the first half, and might not have been able to stop him in the second half had he not been taken out, but then again that is only speculation. Tubby may have devised a gameplan to shut him down in the second half.
He was having a pretty good game inside. What was it 10 points in the time that he was in the game, and I'm not sure if he missed a shot or not. He was on. I really look forward to the rematch this season.
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Post by thuss006 on Aug 2, 2005 19:21:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not saying that is the only reason we won, but we definately didn't have an answer for him early on. Tubby is a pretty good in-game coach, though, and we MIGHT have done something differently in the second half. I don't think anyone here can say we aren't usually a better team in the second half. Don't point out Kansas. . .I'm speaking in general terms.
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Post by kj on Aug 2, 2005 21:02:53 GMT -5
UK has averaged right at 74 ppg the last 2 seasons. No more, no less.
I will have to say a very BORING 74 ppg.
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Post by 7andcounting on Aug 2, 2005 21:13:01 GMT -5
THAT HOPEFULLY WILL CHANGE THIS YEAR
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Post by Bailey on Aug 2, 2005 21:45:53 GMT -5
Maybe I am wrong about the 98 team being ranked #1. I can't find any polls that go back to that time. I will give you that. As far as what Pitino inherited and what Tubby inherited at UK the difference is like night and day. This should be taken into account when you start talking win percentages and win/loss records. I will stick by my belief that Tubby is doing a terrible job recruiting. I do not look for Sims to start over Thomas. He does not know the system. That means he may start for one year before he leaves. Bailey
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Post by BlueCat on Aug 2, 2005 21:51:53 GMT -5
I agree Sims will not start over Thomas. He will start over Crawford, or will at least split the PT.
That is just my opinion, and it isn't a popular one, but I'm sticking with it.
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Post by 7andcounting on Aug 2, 2005 21:54:57 GMT -5
I LOOK AT IT THIS WAY IF WE WOULD HAVE GOT SOMEONE LIKE HANSBOURGH THEN MOST LIKEY WE WOULD NOT GET WRIGHT
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Post by thuss006 on Aug 3, 2005 0:17:24 GMT -5
Screw that. We wanted Hansbrough. We didn't decide against him, he decided against us, and who could blame him. He will be the man the entire time he is at UNC, whereas he would have to share the spotlight here.
BlueCat, you are correct in that, Crawford not starting is unpopular. Sims was recruited as a power forward, and I think he will spend the majority of his time there. My opinion is that Perry will back up Crawford at the 3, and Thomas/Sims will play at the 4. We might even see a little bit of Twin Towers action.
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