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Post by SaulsHairstylist on Dec 6, 2005 20:31:36 GMT -5
Remember in 1992 when Duke beat us because we didn't guard the inbounder? Fans were furious with Pitino.
Remember in 1994 when Marquette easily broke our press and ran away with a double digit win in the 2nd round. Fans were furious with Pitino.
Remember in 1995 when UNC killed us because we kept chucking threes all game? Our fans were furious with Pitino.
Remember in 1997 when Arizona beat us because we had no DA? Fans were furious with Pitino.
My question to those of you who make excuses for Smith, who gets paid more than Pitino ever did while at UK or while he's at Louisville now, is why don't you give equal blame to Smith? Do you pity him?
All I see are excuses from some of you. Georgia State is really THAT GOOD. UNC was underrated. UAB was a powerhouse in disguise. Southern Cal was loaded. The Lexington weather is the reason we can't land kids. The Lexington campus is not good, therefore, kids don't like UK. Bla, bla, bla.
Cowboy the heck up and face the facts. The current UK program is not up to standards.
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Post by CardHater on Dec 6, 2005 20:54:36 GMT -5
My guess if that the same people that defned Coach Smith were the same people that defended Coach Pitino then, and the same people who are unreasonable now are the same people who were unreasonable then. I sewriously doubt that people who defend Coach smith harrassed Coach Pitino or vice versa. You have to be reasonable about these things. If people weren't happy with pitino than they are not going to be happy with Tubby or the next guy, or the next guy. So why cater to them?
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Post by whah on Dec 7, 2005 8:58:10 GMT -5
Remember in 1992 when Duke beat us because we didn't guard the inbounder? Fans were furious with Pitino. Remember in 1994 when Marquette easily broke our press and ran away with a double digit win in the 2nd round. Fans were furious with Pitino. Remember in 1995 when UNC killed us because we kept chucking threes all game? Our fans were furious with Pitino. Remember in 1997 when Arizona beat us because we had no DA? Fans were furious with Pitino. My question to those of you who make excuses for Smith, who gets paid more than Pitino ever did while at UK or while he's at Louisville now, is why don't you give equal blame to Smith? Do you pity him? All I see are excuses from some of you. Georgia State is really THAT GOOD. UNC was underrated. UAB was a powerhouse in disguise. Southern Cal was loaded. The Lexington weather is the reason we can't land kids. The Lexington campus is not good, therefore, kids don't like UK. Bla, bla, bla. Cowboy the heck up and face the facts. The current UK program is not up to standards. totally agree |
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Post by Bluewater on Dec 7, 2005 9:18:05 GMT -5
The program is in good hands. UK basketball has not gone downhill and all of your " Bla, bla, bla. " wont change that.
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Post by kj on Dec 7, 2005 10:07:50 GMT -5
It's not politically correct to criticize Tubby. It may pull back old preconceived notions that racism is alive and thriving.
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Post by CardHater on Dec 7, 2005 10:38:59 GMT -5
It's not politically correct to criticize Tubby. It may pull back old preconceived notions that racism is alive and thriving. The begining of this thread is ludicrous. It asks why people don't criticise Tubby when they criticised Pitino. Are you freaking serious? The criticism of Coach Smith is almost deafening sometimes on this board. SHS you are one of the loudest critics. Do you want every single UK fan alive to criticise Tubby? Guess what that ain't happening and it wasn't every fan that criticised Pitino. Why should we criticise someone we support? Why should UK athletics cater to people who criticise everything. You can never make them happy. As for political correctness. Well that is absurd. Although some of the critics never giving any sort of credit whatsoever for anything good that happens under Tubby and the wishes of some who want us to lose more games so he will be fired. Well that brings about some questions as to there motives. |
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Post by UKFAN on Dec 7, 2005 10:43:31 GMT -5
I supported Pitino just like ktb supports Tubby. However, when he screwed up, I was upset about it and was vocal about it. I realize that all have their shortcomings, that includes Tubby and Pitino, although some (such as ktb) think Tubby can do no wrong. To stand by and let things happen that are not right, isn't right for the program.
Would I take Pitino back, in a heartbeat. He has proven that he knows how to build a program, has a system that works, can teach and get his players to understand that program and can recruit to the needs of his program. Something that Tubby hasn't done.
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Post by kentubbybasketball on Dec 7, 2005 11:12:21 GMT -5
UKFAN, thanks for telling me how I feel about Tubby. Next will you tell me how to take a shower.
This is nothing but a flame thread. It's stupid to rehash times when Pitino in fact made boneheaded decisions, and then suggest people don't criticize Tubby. Tubby is more well-liked because of the way he presents himself... something Pitino has never been able to master.
Even a 5 year old would have known to put somebody on the inbounds passer. Pitino has even admitted that mistake. SaulsHairstylist, Pitino's admitted his own mistake.
And, about your sig with Pat Riley. Riley also said the Kentucky program is in good hands with Tubby Smith. There's a reason he was interested in Chuck Hayes last year and signed Gerald Fitch this year.
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Post by SaulsHairstylist on Dec 7, 2005 11:20:53 GMT -5
There's nothing "flaming" about it. If you don't think the past is relevent, I can't help you change that. But ask many wise men and women who've lived and they'll tell you that a healthy perspective on the past will only help you future if you LEARN from it.
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Post by kentubbybasketball on Dec 7, 2005 11:25:26 GMT -5
Well, like I said in the past both Tubby and Pitino have been criticized, not just one of them but both of them. This thread serves no purpose at all but to make people mad, so I won't come back.
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Post by stagger on Dec 7, 2005 11:53:28 GMT -5
Saul, you have no idea if the posters who back Tubby now were banging on Pitino or not when he was at UK. Given the dates you provided, this board wasn't even around then and I don't think the majority of posters here had an internet connection then either. Your statement that posters had differing attitudes about coaches Smith and Pitino without having personal knowledge of them during the dates mentioned is absurd. It's hard to know what people think when you don't even know they exist.
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Post by snickram on Dec 7, 2005 12:07:27 GMT -5
Well, like I said in the past both Tubby and Pitino have been criticized, not just one of them but both of them. This thread serves no purpose at all but to make people mad, so I won't come back. Wow, someone's upset..  |
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Post by stagger on Dec 7, 2005 12:11:09 GMT -5
more like everyone's upset.
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Post by CardHater on Dec 7, 2005 12:34:54 GMT -5
Saul you might as well have started this post out by saying:
Wah, wah ,wah. Everyobody picked on Pitino why don't they pick on Tubby. wah, wah, wah.
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Post by CardHater on Dec 7, 2005 12:37:10 GMT -5
There's nothing "flaming" about it. If you don't think the past is relevent, I can't help you change that. But ask many wise men and women who've lived and they'll tell you that a healthy perspective on the past will only help you future if you LEARN from it. The only thing from the past that your post reveals is that some people will criticise anything, whether there is something wrong with it or not. I think most people in the world have already learned that those peoples criticism doesn't hold much weight. |
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