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Post by 2dope on Jan 8, 2006 14:08:44 GMT -5
And you know all the details. My details sugguest that UK basketball is not the team to beat anymore to get to the top.
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Post by stagger on Jan 8, 2006 15:58:45 GMT -5
2dope, I haven't seen any solutions from you, only coach complaining. If you don't have solutions, and fire the coach doesn't count, you're not helping. And I never claimed to have the details of Tubby's job.
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Post by kentubbybasketball on Jan 8, 2006 16:08:29 GMT -5
stagger, apparently Tubby got dumber after the Louisville game according to the tone of some people's posts from back then. As Doug Bibby said he told Tubby, Tubby has forgotten more basketball than anybody here has ever known. You win some, you lose some. The only true loser tho is the man who quits when he's behind, and now that Tubby is behind we'll see how he and his team responds. Based off past history, we know how Tubby responds. This team needs to jump on the wagon.
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Post by golfnsr on Jan 8, 2006 18:22:52 GMT -5
stagger, apparently Tubby got dumber after the Louisville game according to the tone of some people's posts from back then. As Doug Bibby said he told Tubby, Tubby has forgotten more basketball than anybody here has ever known. You win some, you lose some. The only true loser tho is the man who quits when he's behind, and now that Tubby is behind we'll see how he and his team responds. Based off past history, we know how Tubby responds. This team needs to jump on the wagon. Tubby and the team got lucky in the Louisville game when Padgett got in foul trouble and because of Pitino's dumb butt early cupcake scheduling of all home games prior to playing Kentucky. If we played Louisville right now they would win 7 out of 10 times.
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Post by Bailey on Jan 8, 2006 21:09:55 GMT -5
I guess averaging just over a point a minute will win games for our defense minded team. After all defense wins games. We just need to devote all our time to defense in that case. I figure that is what we are doing because it doesn't take much to see standing around is our offense game plan. Team morale is at an all time low right now can anyone tell me why? Bailey
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Post by 2dope on Jan 8, 2006 21:17:32 GMT -5
Hey Stagger get the hell off my back! Yes I'm bitchin about the coach because he can't coach offense. I HAVE NO SOLUTIONS. Maybe a try to run a different style of offense, keep Thomas on the bench. Anything, his style is not working right now and future players don't like his style. I am allowed to say what I want! What are you solutions allmighty one? I hope things work out for Tubby, but right now its not looking good.
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Post by MyBlueHeaven on Jan 8, 2006 21:27:20 GMT -5
Agreed, welcome to the board 2dope. I'm sorry that you've had such a hostile welcome in just nine posts.
While I'm not a mod or admin, Stagger, I would suggest that you present your rebut in a kinder fashion.
Again, I apologize for some of the hostilities afforded you so soon. However, this is the Hot Tub and tensions are running high. The "nay-sayers" are fueling their fires and the "supporters" are more defensive this season.
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Post by stagger on Jan 8, 2006 22:05:46 GMT -5
I'm on the fence...I'm not a supporter nor a basher. I'm just sick of people constantly complaining. It got old months ago! LIke I said earlier, if you don't have a solution then you shouldn't gripe...that's my belief, and besides "fire the coach", no one is giving solutions.
2dope, I wasn't trying to be a dick. I really wasn't. I'm just trying to get across the being a coach isn't all x's and o's and people either don't get that or ignore it.
Every high profile school goes through droughts...ask the fans at UCLA. We may be headed for one, but we're not there yet. I'm not gonna hang Tubby out to dry unless we just get an early exit from the NCAA tourney, because in the long run, we won't care how many regular season games we lose if we hit the Final 4.
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Post by TexasBlue on Jan 9, 2006 7:37:40 GMT -5
We will be back stronger than ever guys. Maybe this year, if not, then next.
All I will say is come on guys, Rondo, Bradley, Sparks, Crawford, Moss, Woo, Shag, Sims, Stockton, Perry, Thomas, Carter, and Morris and the rest, just play hard and hope you win many games. We are still behind you.
I am glad ropes are not readily available to all.
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Post by golfnsr on Jan 9, 2006 10:35:10 GMT -5
I'm on the fence...I'm not a supporter nor a basher. I'm just sick of people constantly complaining. It got old months ago! LIke I said earlier, if you don't have a solution then you shouldn't gripe...that's my belief, and besides "fire the coach", no one is giving solutions. 2dope, I wasn't trying to be a dick. I really wasn't. I'm just trying to get across the being a coach isn't all x's and o's and people either don't get that or ignore it. Every high profile school goes through droughts...ask the fans at UCLA. We may be headed for one, but we're not there yet. I'm not gonna hang Tubby out to dry unless we just get an early exit from the NCAA tourney, because in the long run, we won't care how many regular season games we lose if we hit the Final 4. stagger, if you are so sick of things on the Board, DON'T LOG ON!! BTW, our Program has been in a drought for at least the last 4 or 5 years under the mediocre coaching, recruiting and lack of enthusiastic leadership of Orlando Smith.
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Post by 2dope on Jan 9, 2006 12:02:43 GMT -5
Its all good stagger! I'm just mad like everyone else the way they are playing right now. I hope they turn it around soon. Has anyone heard if Tubby is going to start Morris right away. I wish he would start Sims along side of him. Perry and Thomas have not improved at all. The junior class was a mistake but you never can tell how players will turn out I guess. I watched some other games over the weekend and other coaches are always applauding a player or they the way they are playing. Tubby don't do that anymore he just yells, stares or yanks them out if they miss an assingment. I think the players get to down like that.
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Post by stagger on Jan 9, 2006 12:10:49 GMT -5
golf, this place is like a can of Pringles....once you post, you can't stop. I may just opt out of the Tubby hating posts though.
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Post by antiqueblue on Jan 9, 2006 17:28:03 GMT -5
I'm not coach or haven't an idea of what to do. But, I know that when somethings broke it needs fixin. And we need some fixin.
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Post by rajon4rondo on Jan 9, 2006 20:03:44 GMT -5
BTW, our Program has been in a drought for at least the last 4 or 5 years under the mediocre coaching, recruiting and lack of enthusiastic leadership of Orlando Smith. i didn't know going 87-15 overall and 51-6 over three years with mostly unheralded prep talent qualified as mediocre coaching and unenthusiastic leadership.
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Post by kj on Jan 9, 2006 20:59:27 GMT -5
BTW, our Program has been in a drought for at least the last 4 or 5 years under the mediocre coaching, recruiting and lack of enthusiastic leadership of Orlando Smith. i didn't know going 87-15 overall and 51-6 over three years with mostly unheralded prep talent qualified as mediocre coaching and unenthusiastic leadership. Qualify that with a very weak SEC as it has shown by its results in NCAA play and by the fact that we had 2 #1 seeds in that period knocked out of the tournament by a 3 seed and a 9 seed. Why do we have unheralded talent. Cause either Tubby can't get or when he does get the top talent; he can't handle them. Need proof? Look at team turmoil which Tubby said was the most talented team he had ever had and look at this team with 3 Mickey D's, though I admit not much else. Team Turmoil II? Kinda deja vu watching our players yell at each other, Tubby yell at everybody, and everybody looking like they're having no fun.. Tubby realized he couldn't win it all with the Fitch's and Daniel's of the world and got some better talent. Now he can't control them. Individual meetings with all the players, 2 with Rondo. Are the inmates running the asylum? I would say Tubby may not have ruptured the program but let him stay awhile longer and everybody will be crying where did our program go?
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