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Post by Exploding Popsicle on Jan 25, 2007 9:21:18 GMT -5
Hey everyone, long time no post. As I look on all the message boards this morning I find that just about everyone thinks this is Tubby's fault. This is totally crazy. This one is on the players people. When Georgia came out in the second half they were more physical and got in our face and wouldnt back down. Our soft players were totally freaked out and did stupid things like pick up their dribble in very bad spots on the floor and make really dumb passes and threw up stupid shots and sometimes didnt even get a shot off. There is nothing Tubby can do when his players are just intimidated by the other teams ability to play physical.
This teams is very talented, much more talented than Georgia. I dont care what anyone says. This team just has to learn to be physical and tough and most of all mentally strong. You cant just expect a well coached team like Georgia just bow down at your feet just becuase you have them down by 17.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. I have my complaints about Tubby Smith but this one is not his fault. The blame is on his mentally weak players.
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Post by rgriffin on Jan 25, 2007 9:26:06 GMT -5
I agree with this EP.
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Post by TheSpectre on Jan 25, 2007 9:47:05 GMT -5
I disagree. I think the blame belongs to Tubby not only for this game, but for the Vandy game as well. There are 2 games the Cats should have never lost, but did for the same reasons that we've talked about for 10 seasons now. (lack of killer instinct, several 5+ minute stretches w/o a fg, substitution patterns, no sense of urgency) Killer instinct comes from the coach. Also, Stevenson plays 10 friggin' minutes and does more than Thomas in 27 minutes! WHY WON'T HE PLAY STEVENSON?  6 points, 2 reb, 2 blocks in 10 minutes. |
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Post by BlueCat on Jan 25, 2007 9:56:22 GMT -5
Yeah, as much as I've supported Tubby in the past (and still do), this one is at his feet. The team just quit after getting the 17 point lead. When a team is prepared that doesn't happen.
There are two things I've always disliked about Tubby's coaching. One is his recruiting and the other is his passive non-agressive style. IMO that 17 point lead should have been widened to 20+ by halftime and the bulldogs demoralized into giving up. Get your foot on their throat and put the pressure on. Never never let a well coached team get off the deck.
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Post by TheSpectre on Jan 25, 2007 10:01:19 GMT -5
Yeah, as much as I've supported Tubby in the past (and still do), this one is at his feet. The team just quit after getting the 17 point lead. When a team is prepared that doesn't happen. There are two things I've always disliked about Tubby's coaching. One is his recruiting and the other is his passive non-agressive style. IMO that 17 point lead should have been widened to 20+ by halftime and the bulldogs demoralized into giving up. Get your foot on their throat and put the pressure on. Never never let a well coached team get off the deck. I couldn't agree with you more. |
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Post by wildcatfanforever on Jan 25, 2007 10:39:42 GMT -5
Yeah, as much as I've supported Tubby in the past (and still do), this one is at his feet. The team just quit after getting the 17 point lead. When a team is prepared that doesn't happen. There are two things I've always disliked about Tubby's coaching. One is his recruiting and the other is his passive non-agressive style. IMO that 17 point lead should have been widened to 20+ by halftime and the bulldogs demoralized into giving up. Get your foot on their throat and put the pressure on. Never never let a well coached team get off the deck. I'm just as upset as anyone about this...but nobody has even tried to give Georgia any credit for their effort in the second half. Yes, much of the blame lies on our own doorstep, but you must admit that the defensive play of the Georgia team was a big part of the reason that we were not able to execute in the 2nd half. Felton is a motivator. |
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Post by Exploding Popsicle on Jan 25, 2007 10:46:34 GMT -5
Yeah, as much as I've supported Tubby in the past (and still do), this one is at his feet. The team just quit after getting the 17 point lead. When a team is prepared that doesn't happen. To me the great first half they had tells me that they were prepared to play. I think the problem with this team is they cannot handle success very well. They need to grow up in that area. The stopped trying after the big lead and let Georgia gain confidence. IMO, the only thing you could blame Tubby for is not motivating his players to keep playing. But there is only so much he can do in that department. |
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Post by popeye on Jan 25, 2007 11:34:51 GMT -5
I disagree. I think the blame belongs to Tubby not only for this game, but for the Vandy game as well. There are 2 games the Cats should have never lost, but did for the same reasons that we've talked about for 10 seasons now. (lack of killer instinct, several 5+ minute stretches w/o a fg, substitution patterns, no sense of urgency) Killer instinct comes from the coach. Also, Stevenson plays 10 friggin' minutes and does more than Thomas in 27 minutes! WHY WON'T HE PLAY STEVENSON? 6 points, 2 reb, 2 blocks in 10 minutes. i agree spectre. i don't think he played at all the second half. |
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Post by BigDeron88 on Jan 25, 2007 12:06:56 GMT -5
Tubby Smith is the man in charge. He is responsible for every single facet of the Kentucky Basketball program. He dictates what offense we run. What players we recruit, who we sign. He is responsible for what is said before, during and after every single game. The University gave him the reigns. With those reigns he has complete control of how fast we move, how slow we move and in which direction we turn. With that said, he is also responsible for the state of what was once the most feared name in College Basketball. 'KENTUCKY.' I have loads of respect for this coach as a man. He is a class act. But, if you cannot see how he is slowly eroding our once proud and feared program then we are doomed. We are headed into the bleak world of so-so. I was born in this great state. I was born with a blue jersey on and I have been wearing it proudly for 36 years, but now I have to go back 10 years and watch old games just to get excited about a current game. I have to reminisce of players past and games played to get the fire back in my heart just to make it through one game today. That disgusts me. Why do we settle for mediocrity when we used to basque in victory? Tubby is a great guy and a good coach, but he is not the coach for the greatest basketball program in the history of NCAA basketball. It is time for a change. it is time for kentucky to again be KENTUCKY!
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Post by Clayton Bigsby on Jan 25, 2007 12:25:54 GMT -5
Tubby will have to decide to leave because it would take an act from congress to let the university fire him.
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Post by Administrator on Jan 25, 2007 14:00:53 GMT -5
I agree in part. I can agree that this wasn't entirely Tubby's fault but some of the blame can be bestowed upon him. Just like in a win, some of the credit goes to Tubby, some goes to the players and some goes to the opposition. The same can be said with a loss. Some blame goes to Tubby, some to the players and some praise must be given to the opposition.
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Post by blue2dabone on Jan 25, 2007 14:55:13 GMT -5
I agree in part. I can agree that this wasn't entirely Tubby's fault but some of the blame can be bestowed upon him. Just like in a win, some of the credit goes to Tubby, some goes to the players and some goes to the opposition. The same can be said with a loss. Some blame goes to Tubby, some to the players and some praise must be given to the opposition. I think that's exactly right, Spam. |
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Post by VaCatfan on Jan 25, 2007 15:29:33 GMT -5
Hey everyone, long time no post. As I look on all the message boards this morning I find that just about everyone thinks this is Tubby's fault. This is totally crazy. This one is on the players people. When Georgia came out in the second half they were more physical and got in our face and wouldnt back down. Our soft players were totally freaked out and did stupid things like pick up their dribble in very bad spots on the floor and make really dumb passes and threw up stupid shots and sometimes didnt even get a shot off. There is nothing Tubby can do when his players are just intimidated by the other teams ability to play physical. This teams is very talented, much more talented than Georgia. I dont care what anyone says. This team just has to learn to be physical and tough and most of all mentally strong. You cant just expect a well coached team like Georgia just bow down at your feet just becuase you have them down by 17. Anyway, those are my thoughts. I have my complaints about Tubby Smith but this one is not his fault. The blame is on his mentally weak players. Maybe its just me, but my school of thought says that when one team is more talented than another, the more talented team should win. When this is not the case, 99% of the time the fault lays at the feet of the coach. |
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Post by sinner1507 on Jan 25, 2007 16:24:52 GMT -5
So I guess what peopel are saying, is that when they got their 17 point lead it was ALL the players. However, when they lost it in the second half, we should blame it on Tubby.
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Post by TheSpectre on Jan 25, 2007 16:54:30 GMT -5
So I guess what peopel are saying, is that when they got their 17 point lead it was ALL the players. However, when they lost it in the second half, we should blame it on Tubby. I don't know. Are you saying that UK's lead was because of Tubby and UK losing the lead because of the players? |
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