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Post by ukcatfan11 on Mar 28, 2005 19:25:29 GMT -5
Do you think that Rick Pitino's taking over of a UL team that was in shambles and putting them in the Final Four in four short years has raised the bar of expectations on Tubby? I know I am new to the board, but jeez people. Let Pitino go!! If he were as true blue as us, he would have NEVER taken the UL job in the first place. It is like when Joe B. was offered the Tenn. job after he retired, he said he never even opened the envelope! Pitino is a great motivator and knows the game, but he is gone. This is Tubby's program. Do you compare Pitino's work with Crum at UL? I don't see any championships with Pitino at UL. I also don't see him playing the same level of competition that Tubby does. Pitino will succeed wherever he goes, but we will see the how he does at UL once the Big East comp starts. Do we make ourselves like the Nebraska football fans? Frank Solich goes 9-3 and loses his job!!! Could you imagine a guy going 9-3 at UK in football? He could run for Governor. All I am saying is we can't win the chanpionship every year. We (myself included) expect it evry year. It is only because we are so spoiled by all the winning. When we are upset on the road, the opposition storms the court. It is their National title. You don't see us do that because we are expected to win. Imagine the pressure on Tubby and the players every night they take the floor. You are damned if you do, and damned if you don't. I think the man does a super job at the most high profile, and most demanding collegiate basketball program in the country. Just my opinion.
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Post by BlueCat on Mar 28, 2005 19:34:01 GMT -5
I know I am new to the board, but jeez people. Let Pitino go!! If he were as true blue as us, he would have NEVER taken the UL job in the first place. It is like when Joe B. was offered the Tenn. job after he retired, he said he never even opened the envelope! Pitino is a great motivator and knows the game, but he is gone. This is Tubby's program. Do you compare Pitino's work with Crum at UL? I don't see any championships with Pitino at UL. I also don't see him playing the same level of competition that Tubby does. Pitino will succeed wherever he goes, but we will see the how he does at UL once the Big East comp starts. Do we make ourselves like the Nebraska football fans? Frank Solich goes 9-3 and loses his job!!! Could you imagine a guy going 9-3 at UK in football? He could run for Governor. All I am saying is we can't win the chanpionship every year. We (myself included) expect it evry year. It is only because we are so spoiled by all the winning. When we are upset on the road, the opposition storms the court. It is their National title. You don't see us do that because we are expected to win. Imagine the pressure on Tubby and the players every night they take the floor. You are damned if you do, and damned if you don't. I think the man does a super job at the most high profile, and most demanding collegiate basketball program in the country. Just my opinion. I like your opinion!
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Post by UKFAN on Mar 28, 2005 19:37:48 GMT -5
1989, very good post. All that you have said has been written by me over the years concerning Tubby and the direction the program is going. If Tubby stays and doesn't make some changes, i.e, get some help with an offense that has some flow to it, we will see some more of the same.
I thought this board was like a two sided sword. But it is okay for people to keep repeating how great a coach Tubby is, but when a few people start to question the direction the program is headed and the problems there are, all off a sudden every thing is nothing but a repeat. You have to take the bad with the good, can't have it your way all of the time.
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Post by BlueCat on Mar 28, 2005 21:05:41 GMT -5
You have to take the bad with the good, can't have it your way all of the time. Why not? My wife gets her way all the time. ;D
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Post by TexasBlue on Mar 28, 2005 21:35:27 GMT -5
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Post by chewy on Mar 28, 2005 21:44:36 GMT -5
1989, very good post. All that you have said has been written by me over the years concerning Tubby and the direction the program is going. If Tubby stays and doesn't make some changes, i.e, get some help with an offense that has some flow to it, we will see some more of the same. I thought this board was like a two sided sword. But it is okay for people to keep repeating how great a coach Tubby is, but when a few people start to question the direction the program is headed and the problems there are, all off a sudden every thing is nothing but a repeat. You have to take the bad with the good, can't have it your way all of the time. maybe it was just the timing of some of the posts, just like the players, we were all dragged through a game with so many emotions....and just started going at each other with what we thought...JMO
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Post by TexasBlue on Mar 28, 2005 21:47:56 GMT -5
1989, very good post. All that you have said has been written by me over the years concerning Tubby and the direction the program is going. If Tubby stays and doesn't make some changes, i.e, get some help with an offense that has some flow to it, we will see some more of the same. I thought this board was like a two sided sword. But it is okay for people to keep repeating how great a coach Tubby is, but when a few people start to question the direction the program is headed and the problems there are, all off a sudden every thing is nothing but a repeat. You have to take the bad with the good, can't have it your way all of the time. UKFAN, I am not arguing, or trying to tell you who is right or who is wrong with there opinions. You know as well as I do that nobody is right or wrong. What I do think is wrong is that this is the sixth different thread I have been on tonight and EVERY dam one of them is getting pounded about how several people think Tubby is the SHITTY est coach in the world. I have heard it over and over and over. Do all of you all think the rest of us are little kids that need this pounded into them with your every post? We are adults here, so why don't the anti Tubby group open up a thread, say what you have to say, then discuss the topic at hand in the other threads with everyone else.
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Post by Bailey on Mar 28, 2005 22:18:24 GMT -5
BlueCat you are wrong. This thread was intended to point out that UL has just raised the bar for excellence (going to the Final Four) in the state. I was wondering if Tubby was going to feel the pressure and what would he do to keep UK as the top school in the state in basketball. There was no Tubby bashing even mentioned in the thread. Bailey
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Post by kentubbybasketball on Mar 28, 2005 22:20:20 GMT -5
One final four appearance in 20 years isn't raising the bar of the state.
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Post by TexasBlue on Mar 28, 2005 22:23:19 GMT -5
One final four appearance in 20 years isn't raising the bar of the state.
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Post by Bailey on Mar 28, 2005 22:36:49 GMT -5
Tubby is a pretty good coach, but as in business you have to learn and adape to the present and future to stay on top. I feel that is where Tubby stands right now. In my opinion he definately needs to hire an offensive coach to help out. Look at our free throw shooting, three point shooting and half court offense. All three areas need to be improved for us to make the Final Four. We also need to rebound better. 28 wins a year is nice but it is not what NCAA Basketball is about. Final Fours and National Championships are why we play 30 plus games per year. We can win 28 games every year but I for one will not be happy untill we play for the National Championship. Bailey
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Post by kentubbybasketball on Mar 28, 2005 22:39:38 GMT -5
Tubby is a pretty good coach, but as in business you have to learn and adape to the present and future to stay on top. I feel that is where Tubby stands right now. In my opinion he definately needs to hire an offensive coach to help out. Look at our free throw shooting, three point shooting and half court offense. All three areas need to be improved for us to make the Final Four. We also need to rebound better. 28 wins a year is nice but it is not what NCAA Basketball is about. Final Fours and National Championships are why we play 30 plus games per year. We can win 28 games every year but I for one will not be happy untill we play for the National Championship. Bailey Fantastic post, which everybody is able to understand your point. It's great to hear this side of the issue without someone stooping so low as to say "Tubby sucks." In response to the FT shooting. What else can Tubby do? They work on it in practice everyday. It's up to the players to respond when at the line. Tubby wasn't a good FT shooter at High Point, and it seems to have carried over to his teams, but there's nothing that Tubby can do but work on mechanics. Then, the players have to respond.
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Post by kentubbybasketball on Mar 28, 2005 22:41:06 GMT -5
Bailey, thank you once again for showing tact in that post. You don't seem to have a hidden agenda in your post, just a concern for the program. Great post!! Great tact!!
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Post by KY Kid on Mar 28, 2005 22:41:14 GMT -5
I read somewhere that Tubby was going to get Izzo to give him some pointers on teaching the art of shooting free throws.
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Post by chewy on Mar 28, 2005 22:43:36 GMT -5
We can win 28 games every year but I for one will not be happy untill we play for the National Championship. Bailey We have played for 10 national championships in the past 65 or so years.....you must be miserable
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