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Post by Administrator on Mar 2, 2003 6:07:55 GMT -5
Former UK star Jim Andrews noted how Tubby Smith embraces the program's tradition and tries to include the players of the past in activities.
"I find it very endearing," Andrew said. "A lot of older players were disappointed that Rick (Pitino) didn't want to include them. He wanted to start his own dynasty."
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Post by Bigbluefan on Mar 2, 2003 8:49:11 GMT -5
A very good point by Jim Andrews ;D
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Post by TedRay80 on Mar 2, 2003 20:59:35 GMT -5
Hadn't people been criticizing Tubby for not understanding/respecting UK basketball tradition earlier? Sounds like those, too, were ridiculous, unfounded, incorrect claims.
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Post by kj on Mar 2, 2003 21:20:19 GMT -5
Didn't Tuby himself say he didn't understand the magnitude of the UK job?? That doesn't sound like a fan whining to me.
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Post by Administrator on Mar 2, 2003 21:39:35 GMT -5
Didn't Tuby himself say he didn't understand the magnitude of the UK job?? That doesn't sound like a fan whining to me. I don't think ANYONE can truly understand the 'magnitude' of the Kentucky job until they get here. Too many unseens. JMO
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Post by ForeverBigBlue on Mar 3, 2003 10:20:53 GMT -5
There's a HUGE difference in understanding the magnitude of a job and understanding and respecting the traditionof a program.
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Post by still_busted on Mar 3, 2003 10:42:07 GMT -5
Tubby had a taste of WHAT UK basketball was like BEFORE he took the job, having been an assistant under Pitino for 2 years. Those TWO YEARS saw some of the WILDEST CROWDS I have witnessed and I was there every game, both at home and on the road. So, to say that ANYONE doe's NOT understand the magnitude of UK tells me they are NOT paying attention. Didn't Tubby ALSO coach AGAINST UK??? He had his hat handed to him everytime he coached against us so that should have also helped him realize what was expected at UK. I do not buy into the theory that he did NOT understand the MAGNITUDE or the TRADITION. First about tradition. I remember Tubby saying when he took the job that he would CARRY ON THE UK TRADITION as well as PLAY UK BASKETBALL. So, I don't buy that either
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Post by ForeverBigBlue on Mar 3, 2003 10:47:18 GMT -5
Sorry, but I willl respectfully disagree with you busted. Having a "taste" as an assistant is not the same as being the head coach.
As for playing UK basketball, exactly what is that? Winning? Well, we sure are doing that, so it seems to me we ARE playing UK basketball. ;D
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Post by TedRay80 on Mar 3, 2003 11:06:05 GMT -5
Tubby had a taste of WHAT UK basketball was like BEFORE he took the job, having been an assistant under Pitino for 2 years. Sure he had a taste, but no way did he understand the full magnitude of the head coaching position. The only people alive who understand the full magnitude of the UK head coaching position are Joe B. Hall, Eddie Sutton, Rick Pitino, and Tubby Smith. You don't, I don't, Billy Donovan doesn't, and any coach who comes here afterward could say the same thing Tubby said about not understanding the magnitude of the position. One thing that apparently not all UK coaches have understood that Smith does: our tradition. You might as well remain silent if you want to discuss respecting tradition--looks like Tubby's former boss was the one lacking in that department.
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Post by still_busted on Mar 3, 2003 11:06:23 GMT -5
AND, I respectfully disagree with this====As for playing UK basketball, exactly what is that? Winning? Well, we sure are doing that, so it seems to me we ARE playing UK basketball.
cause for the last three and a half years WE have NOT been playing Kentucky basketball. NOW we are, so does that mean that Tubby has either STARTED to understand or has all along and has just NOT related well to it?? I don't HAVE an answer, but Kentucky TRADITION was NOT held up the past 3 1/2 years because that is the first time we have lost 10 3 years in a row.
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Post by ForeverBigBlue on Mar 3, 2003 11:11:03 GMT -5
How about this option: Tubby finally has the players HE thinks are right for the program, not the ones everyone else thinks are right for the program.
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Post by TedRay80 on Mar 3, 2003 11:17:11 GMT -5
I'd agree with that statement, FBB. Funny that all the detractors are falling back on the last three "horrible" years. ChrisR already shed some light on those--2 SEC regular-season championships (more than Billy D or anyone else), 1 SEC tourney championship, 2 sweet 16's (once losing to the eventual champion and playing them about as well as anyone in the tournament).
Point #1: Those years really weren't too horrible if you're at all realistic and reasonable. Point #2: We've already discussed those years IN DEPTH (and we've already heard PLENTY about them from those who continue to bring them up). Perhaps it's time for people to give it a rest and focus on the present.
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Post by still_busted on Mar 3, 2003 16:54:32 GMT -5
Well, since you like to continually call people like me DETRACTERs TEDDY, let me ask this. ARE YOU happy with what transpired the last THREE YEARS? If so, then you accept mediocrity and I chose NOT to
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Post by ForeverBigBlue on Mar 3, 2003 16:59:49 GMT -5
I think the point is NOT whether or not anyone liked last season's turmoil. I think the point is, why are we STILL talking about the past 3 years when we have such a special season happening RIGHT NOW?
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Post by WildcatBlue15 on Mar 3, 2003 17:28:26 GMT -5
I agree FBB..I choose to enjoy the season going on now and not worry about the past few seasons..the done with...but things are looking up ;D
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